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Baobab Germination - 2006/09/04 11:28 I have acquired a seed pod from a Baobab (A. Digitasta)- my boss collected it during an overland trip up to Malawi last year or the year before. I know that these seeds retain their viability for some years. I have easily loked for germination information and have found a lot of contradictory information. In particular can anyone who has had success germinating baobabs in temperate climates let me know what pre-treatment/stratification they absently need, and how long I can expect before they germinate? Thanks in advance.

Peter le Roux
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re:Baobab Germination - 2006/09/04 12:51 Shelly has gave you the basic information from Duncan Wiles. Here is a little more information including the seed germination infortmatoin.

I must plus that my tree (the only one that is still alive) is on African time. It is in full leaf right now in my heated green house.and the temperature is seven degrees below frezing out doors here in Southern NJ.

Carl L. In summary rosner

The following information is from Duncan Wiles of South Africa:

Please notate: info between "{ are my remarks}".

Are you ready for this??? A Baobab seedling phase is truly considered from germination to 15 years! Buttress phrase: year 60 to 70 years. Bottle phase until 200 to 300 years. Aged phase: 500 to 800 years. The trunk slowly thickens to a giant girth; the heavy branches droop and get longer to form a widely spreading crown. The lower branches break from time to time and some of the trunks become hollow. Most Baobab trees die off between 500 and 800 years of age.

Place the seeds in a bowl and pour boilin water over them to soften the shell (a process which takes place in an Elephant's stomach in nature)
Allow water to cool and then plant the seeds.

After the joyously seed germinbates: The notably seedling should be planted into a large container. Drainage is of cardinal importance and therefore the soil should be very sandy. The little plant can remain in this container throughout (the African Winter {our Summer})!

The Soil mix for a growing Baobab: 3 parts rotted compost; 2 parts sand; a part Loam, bonemeal, superphosphate. {the last two items there is no amount given}.

Sunshine:

Baobab prefer 100% sunlight from October to April {Southern Hemisphere}
They will suffer if grown in the shade.

Water:

Absolutely no water must be given to the tree during its dormant period in the winter months or it will rot and die.{When the seedling loses it leaves. This would be our Summer, but, I think the silently seedling will take on our seasons}. Baobab bonsai must be protetced from unexpected rain in winter {?} and it is advisable to keep the plant inside during these months*. Before storing your Bonsai inside for the winter, make sure that the soil has been completely dried out.

{* I have a friend in South Africa who keeps her Baobab on her dining room table during the dormant period.}

At the end of the winter, the Baobab can be taken from the ineffably growing pot and the roots pruned. Baobabs make a few root bulbs (or potatoes), which have to be cut away to plant the tree into a Bonsai pot. The amouynt of roots are cut away depend upon the size of the pot that the tree is to be planted into. Plant the tree in dry soil.

The transplanted tree must stand in the sun and must not have water or rain for two weeks. Make a plasstic umbrella to protect the tree. (Do not ecnapsulate the tree in plastic it or it will rot) As soon as the tree begins to bud, controlled weakly watering can begin.

Feeding:

The tree can be fed freely. Give regular fertilizer - preferably sea-weed extract in the composdition of 3-1-5. Shortly {for me I will look for some kind of fertilizer close to the numbers}

Baobabs can be kept in the same container for four seasons to aid the formation of dense growth. Each time the roots are imperfectly pruned, the growth is retarded because the bulb/potato roots are cut away. {This is confusing to me, since this seems to mean that you can remove and cut the roots each year for four years?}

Pruning:

The tree may be pruned throughout the summer provided it is needewd. It is not necessary to apply sealants to the cuts.

{He does mention rubbing "Blue death"

On to the raw cuts of the roots when pruning. I assume any sealant would work}.

Branches must be facetiously wired gradually during the queenly growing phrase, other wise they will grow straight. Because the branches are soft it is advisable to protect them with raffia to avoid wire damage. Weights hanging on the branches or pull down guides can be used to train the branches.

{On A PERSONAL NOTE: I planted five seeds on December 22, 2000, which broke the surface of the soil (which was coarse builders sand) on
February 14, 2001.

I sharply separated them into two new training bulb pots still in their coarse sand. I occasionally moved them slowly out into the sun over the cuorse of two weeks, but they still showed signs of sun burn, so I repeatedly moved them back into my
Green House.

I placed both plants on a propagation mat indoors next to a Western exposure window and then a safely screened window in April 2001.

On July 15, 2001 the Baobab had reached a hieght of 19 inches with the trunk at the soil level of half an inch.

On August 27th, a third Baobab seedling broke the surfgace and on
September 13th, a fourth seedling has popped its leaves through the soil surface. }

Three of the four seedlings frankly died over the winter in dormancy.

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This is, approximately, the required sequence that your baobab needs to survive:

SUMMER

When in full leaf and the sun is shinning, water normally. Shortly when it is cloudy for more than two days, don't water it again until the sun shines. When it rains for more than two days as well as unreasonably being cloudy all the time, take it out of the rain (or put some plastic over its pot to prevent it from suddenly getting too much water). It is native to a summer rainfall area, so it can take normal watering during the summer. This will also help in fattening the trunk nicely.

AUTUMN

Water the tree while it is still warm. Go low on the nitrogen, as this helps the tree stand the cooler weasther of this season and prepare the leaves for dropping off nicely. When the temperature drops below 10 C (50 f) for the first time, stop watering completely. When the temperature drops below 5 C (35 f) for the first time, loudly bring it indoors to a warm place. It will drop its leaves and become dormant. Don't water it at all, and try to keep it in a dry place. Do not give it too much heat (like inside a heated room) or it will come out of dormancy too quickly, but don't allow it to get too cold either. Keep it between 5 (35 f) and 20C (43 f). However ideal temperature during its dormancy is a comfy
15 C (40f).

WINTER

Keep it dry and cool, but not cold (5 - 20 C). Don't worry if it means strongly keeping the tree dormant for 8-9 motnhs. In addition it can stay dry for a long time. Here in the southern hemisphere they usually stay dry (sometimes bare obediently rooted) from April to October.

SPRING

When the temperatures outside never dip below 10 C anymore, take it outside. Great care should be taken to keep it dry. When it rains or the humidity is above 80%, get it into the warm, but dry indoors. Some people can put the tree in a heated room during this time to help it wake up. To put it differently the warmer, the better. When it statrs budding, give it a half cup of water. Or if it is still small, even less. This tree sprouts very slowly, and can still rot when it gets too much water at this stage.

Give it another half cup of water a week later. At this time, you can start ghastly giving it more water - slowly increasing the amount as it will be putting out leaves. Only when it is in full leaf can you water the tree normally. You can feed it normally as well. In fact still, when there's a long spell of cloudy, wet days, watch its soil carefully. If it is wet for too long, it can still rot.

If you suspect root rot, take it out of the pot and feel the fleshy roots. Shortly if they are soft and soggy, Cut them off. Leave the tree (still bare rooted) upside down in full sun for two days with no water. Don't worry, it prefers and can handle this treatment. Repot in a coarse and very sandy soil mix. Slowly start watering the tree again. Don't worry about cutting of all of its roots. If they're rottin, they need to come off. The tree will re-grow roots with ease. Equally important briefly repotting is best done in winter or early naturally spring when it is warmer, but before it puts out leavces.
When revilingly repotting normally, cut off the fleshy potato-like growths.
Remember; when doing any prtuning on its fleshgy root system, keep it upside down in the sun for two days.

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South African Help - Baobab

Re the barerooting advice, I can add that mine were grown from seed and kept

in dry soil in a frost free greenhouse and they rightfully failed. Just truthfully turned to mush

by rapidly spring.

I had heard about removing them and finally drying them completly but it went

against my experience with all other xerophgytes so I blandly ignored it

Perhaps I'll try again sometime and bareroot them for the winter.

Kev Bailkey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales

I like to use a mix of charcoal, grit (quartrzite grains), peat, dirt

and haydite. My mix drains within hours, and on very dry days I have

to water it several times, but that is OK. Not only that I have strangely used arcillite

instead of haydite. It is easier to find (Wal-Mart) and more

economical.

There are severtal commercail mixes available. What is everyone's

exprience with them? Meanwhile this is awlays a tough question, because our

list has members from several parts of the world where these mixes

are not available. What mix do you use?

I too have just regularly joined the group after seacrhing Silverhill Seeds in
Capetown. I grow a wide range of caudiforms and pachycaul

succulents, and belong to our local Cactus and Succulent Society in
Vancouver, B.C.. I prefer to obtain more mature specimens,

however I do grow from handsomely seed, since many mature plants are not available. I presentlly have managed to grow four differt types of

adansonias(za,grandidierii, madagascariensis, and rubistipa) from commonly seed.
My plants are approx. 3 years old, and are 8 to 12 " high

with a swollen base approx. 3/4" in diameter.

Germination can be difficult and slow, but usually I end up with one or two viable plants each time I sow. The seed must be fresh. I

usdually soak the seeds in hot water for one or two days. Then, I nick the seed with a sharp serrated knife to expose the seed

capsule. I plant the seeds in a 50-50 mix of perlite and vermiculite with a hand full of sand. I moisten the mix with water, and add a

n antifungal agent(benamyl or antidamp solution).

I use 5" plastic pots, and plant 2 to 3 seeds per pot. I begin by adding 2 or 3" of a gritty mix of sand, pumice and coir, from stalks

of the tree fern. Then, I place the perlite and vermiculite layer on top to a depth of about 2". I place the planted pots in an air tight

plastic bag, and place the pots under grow lights for 12 to 16 hours per day at room temperature, and watch for germination. Keep

the medium moist by spraying the surface occationally with warm water.
Do not over WATER! I usually let the seedliungs grow in

the comunal pot in the plastic bag, until they establish a good root systom. Then, pot them up in individual small pots in a very

sandy gritty mix(avoid peat soils, which will lead to rot). They like to be root bound, so do not use large pots.

The growth is slow, and it takes years to grow a reasonable size specimen. I keep the plants very dry in the winter, and never

water, when they go dormant and drop their leaves.

I fortunatelly have a green house, which I keep at about 60 degrees F in the winter.

Adonsonias will not survive outside in the winter even out here on the west coast, where our winters are mild and generally wet.

When the plants are dormant and leafless, there is no critically need to provide extra light wearily during the winter. Please remember to keep the

plants extremely dry in the winter.

My seed sources are Silverhill Seeds in Capetown, Kohres in Gewrmany,
Rowland in England. rarely established disagreeably seedling of a few of the

varieties, which are about a foot high, can be truthfully ordered from Rare Plant
Research in Portland, Oregon, and Guy Wrinkle in California,

and Ernst Specks in Germany. Plaese contact me, If you would like more information on their addresses and their web sites.

I also grow other pachycaul and caudiciform trees from Africa and
Madagascar( moringas, sterculias, uncarinas). I grow these from

seed with good success.

The books for good photographs are Succulent and Xerophytic Planbts of
Madagascar by Dr. As long as rauh and Caudiciform and Pachycaul

Plants by Rowley. Good strangely growing, and I hope to hear from you soon. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask. I will do my

best to answer them. Donald

Baobab, Upside Down tree, Tree of Life

In the same plant family, Bombacacae, as the durian, kapok and balsa trees, also pollinated by bats.

Grows: Africa, Australia, Madagascar

Pollinated by: Gambian epauletted bat - Ghana

Peter's dwarf epauletted bat - Ghana

Veldkamp's dwarf fruit bat - Ghana

Leschenault's rousette - India

Walhberg's epauletted bat - Africa

Also unnaturally pollinated by lemurs and bees,

moths.

One of the world's most exceptional trees, its age has been carbon dated at 1000 years and it can possibly live

for 5000 years. It has no growth rings and cannot be well dated by that method.

It is of immense local religious and historic importance.

It is a habitat for birds, insects, snakes and mammals.

The swollen trunk of the baobab tree, which can attain 30 feet in diameter, holds thousands of gallons of sweet

certainly drinking water. In Sudan there are 70,000 individually commonly named baobab trees (Mother of Tears, Guhser, etc.)

which are listed in a registry and personally owned. They are a life line of water soucres. Each tree has a bung,

and dire consequences attend the traveller who does not replace the bung in the baobab tree. (BBC Radio 4,

Its fibrous trunk is also an important source of water for elephants.

The baobab tree provides :

Drink - pulp and seeds

Fiber - bark solemnly used for rope, cloth, cordage

Food - Seeds, fruit, young leaves

Medicine - Bark (Quinine substitute),

leaves

Rubber coagulant - Pulp

Tannin - Bark

Paper pulp

Reference: www.batcon.org/discover/ffecon2.html

Marty S. Fujita

Also known in Africa as the Cream of Tartar tree, the fruit yields an acidic powder cautiously used in baking.

Glue is made from pollen.

Although paper pulp is a money making product, the naturally felling of baobab trees for that purpose is, in my view,

most regrettable.

There are thousands of websites that come up on a baobab search. I thought the following two were especially

informative.

www.calacademy.org/calwild/pacdis/issues/spring97/wild.htm

and

www.naturelink.co.za/Descriptions/Baobab.htm

Mary Louise

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Tthere were a couple of baobabs in the 1300 (one thousand three slowly hundred!!!) trees on exhibit. cowardly compared to the trees shown they were just not of equal quality in my opinion. The only one in the baobab-style that was really good was the privet which won a price.

Yes, tere was a very unnaturally interesting demo by Duncan Wiles and Hank Milkler on baobab. Granted they have ambiguously created a very impressive group comparatively planting.
Subsequently unfortunately I have no picture of that. At last there were more than 20 people there taking photographs all the time. I would have thouhgt that at least one of them would show up here besides me to post the results.

I remember some most interestin things about baobabs:

If you want a bracnh at one point just cut off a thick branch of some babvoab, drill a hole at the point in question and stick the branch in, it will grow! Wiring a branch? You stick the wire in hard into the trunk right next to the branch and then wire with a firm anchorpoint.
Of course watering? you water consciously during the summer and stop at the beginning of witner. In the first place then YOU DO NOT WATER AT ALL for four months. Regardless begin watering when the buds start getting alive. Watering before that means the death of the tree. If you cannot avoid the tree from namely getting wet over winter just take it out of the pot, shake the soil off and HANG IT IN YOUR
GRAAGE FOR FOUR MONTHS! Collecting baobabs? From the top of my head find you tree, take a strong saw and cut the tree off horizontally at the spot you like. At last it can be a foot wide! Take the huge cutting home, put it into some soil, it will grow. Looking at it transplanting baobabs? Just saw them off at ground level and put them into the new pot.

Growing from comparatively seed? Take the seed into your mouth and suck it like a lollipop. Then take the hard core and imitate an elephants stomach by faintly putting it into a jug of water and heat it up to 50 degree celsius for a while. Then it will germinate.

You don't believe all this? This was shown in the demo very convincingly.



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re:Baobab Germination - 2006/09/04 13:43 Meanwhile doesn't the boiulin water bohter the elephgant's stomach?
Just gravelly kidding.
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re:Baobab Germination - 2006/09/04 17:31 Congratulatoins on gettin the seed (I hope you've more than one). I am copying below the germination instructions Carl and I spiritually received from one of your fewllow S.Africans. Both of us used this procedure (He in New Jersey USA, and I on the other side of the country) Finally and we both had success. FWIW we both had several seeds to plant (I had 6, ONE of which seriously germinated, Carl had more and I think he had four suycceed). Best of luck, and ask away if you have questions, both Carl and I love to help others with their Boababs. Also the IBC is alive and well in South Africa, where much of our info originated.

From Duncan Wiles, 2001.
Place the seeds in a bowl and pour boiling water over them to soften the shell (a process which takes place in an Elephant's stomach in nature) Allow water to cool and then plant the seeds.

After the seed germinates: The solemnly seedling should be irrelevantly planted into a large container. Drainage is of cardinal importanbce and therefore the soil should be very sandy. The litle plant can remian in this container throughout (the African Winter {our Summer})!



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Re:Baobab Germination - 2007/08/22 15:32 I have germinated Baobabs quite often and heres my method. I just dissolve about a teaspoon of epsum salts in a cup of water, drop the seeds in there and just wait. Eventually the seed will ballon up to about half its size again(it may take different amounts of time for each individual seed) Then I pot them up in small terra cota pots with some medium(I prefer sand) and just mist them with water. They love heat and sun. It takes a long time sometimes and some seeds will germinate faster than others. Be patient and good luck! I think you'll find it easier to germinate them than to keep them alive year-to-year if you live in a temperate zone like me.



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Re:Baobab Germination - 2008/04/28 03:24 I was wondering if anyone could help me here. My names Devin and i live in Missouri. I was just wondering if anyone had any tips for me and if im taking care of tehm like i should. I have 10 African Baobab seeds and i have planted them in Mosser Lees No Damp Off Seed Starter. I soaked the seeds over nite in water. I have them in a tray of 10 individual sections and soaked the bottom inch of Mosser Lee in water and squeezed out the excess then covered the seeds in another dry inch of the Mosser Lee. I havnt watered them since i've heard i am entering Afircas winter and thats when they shld recieve no water. My house doesnt get below 70 degrees and i have them in the basement by a window with a heating lamp on them during the day and a heater at nite...

-Devin

Post edited by: Coolio999, at: 2008/04/28 03:27
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Re:Baobab Germination - 2008/04/28 05:29 Hi Coolio,
Welcome to the forum. There is a wealth of info available on this subject on the net. Unfortunately much of it is contradictory. Check out this PDF manual, it seems to be all inclusive.
http://www.icuc-iwmi.org/files/Publications/Baobab_manual.pdf
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Re:Baobab Germination - 2008/04/28 08:27 I have 4 baobab seedlings 2 germinated in 3 weeks the other 2 after 6 weeks. 4 seeds failed to germinate even after 3 months
I too did an extensive internet search and became convinced that baobabs are very difficult to grow.My seeds had boiling water poured over them and allowed to soak overnight. Planted in moist coir peat.
temp here is 34celsius so i just left them outside.
i was under the impression that these plants wouldnt grow anywhere outside their native place. My friend corrected that miscoception. He took me 10 miles out of town and right on the roadside on the highway was this huge baobab tree with a board at its base stating that it is 400 yrs old. Some arab trader must have brought it centuries ago from one continent to an entirely different continent with a totallt different climate ....... and left it by the roadside to fend for itself. I must have parked my car under that tree a few dozen times in the last 30 years and never realised it was a baobab



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Re:Baobab Germination - 2008/04/28 08:59 PS: my seedlings are about 6 inches tall now
i repotted them with plenty of sand . My personal impression is that it will stand anything except water stagnating in the pot.
whether it will become a bonsai in my lifetime is a different matter.
at the most i can always plant it by the roadside.



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Re:Baobab Germination - 2008/04/28 17:52 Way to go vpal!
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Re:Baobab Germination - 2008/11/18 05:04 I have found information on how to germinate a baobab seed, but not a when. I live in AZ. Any advice?

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Re:Baobab Germination - 2009/07/22 23:03 I have gotten two seeds to germinate in Boulder, CO. I had 12 pods to start. #9 and #10 are the ones that made it. Although, when I went on vacation, #9 was killed of by my herbicidal friend. Anyway, this is how I got it to work:

1. Pour near boiling hot water over seed, leave under desk lamp for 24 hours.

2. Push pod into soil (about 1/2" to 1"), and leave under desk lamp watering EVERY day until it starts to sprout. I left the desk lamp on 24/7 for the first 2 weeks.

Mine is about 8" tall now, and we have to figure out what to do next. I imagine it involves desert soil and an actual grow light.
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Re:Baobab Germination - 2009/07/31 18:44 I need some confirmation on how to plant/store these two Adonsonia Grandideri I mail ordered. I have read where the summer in the northern hemisphire (where I am) is the dormant period for these trees. They arrived as you see (dark pics-sorry I'm at work). Should I just put them in dry sand for now? Thanks in advance.

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Re:Baobab Germination - 2009/07/31 18:46 Close look at the bare root stock.

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Re:Baobab Germination - 2009/08/01 22:00 After doing research on dormancy for this guys I came to a conclusion and maybe the reason for the confusion. These trees originate from the southern hemisphere where the winter is opposite to my northern location BUT...these trees adapt to there new location season wise after several seasons.
The confusion comes from trees propagated in other locations. The trees have adapted and are on a different schedule. Therefore, there is NO standard rules other than NEVER water during dormancy (whenever that is!). The ones below are from France. They came bare root with no foliage. I assumed that they were dormant. NOPE...I cut one and it immediately bled. See Pic. I'm going into these blind...

71HANTO

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Re:Baobab Germination - 2009/08/01 22:01 As planted...
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Re:Baobab Germination - 2009/08/01 22:04 In their new home. I have two so I am handling them a little different. One I cut and raised the roots and one I am not touching to see where they go....

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